Comments for Journey http://journey2myself.org reading, writing, exploring Thu, 11 Feb 2010 19:22:38 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 Comment on Who gets results? by Liz http://journey2myself.org/archives/who-gets-results/comment-page-1/#comment-21200 Liz Thu, 11 Feb 2010 19:22:38 +0000 http://journey2myself.org/?p=476#comment-21200 Susan: Somewhere, deep in my brain, I must have remembered your post... as I just reread it, it set off bells in my head. It is a view of the story that I can work with. Susan: Somewhere, deep in my brain, I must have remembered your post… as I just reread it, it set off bells in my head. It is a view of the story that I can work with.

]]> Comment on Who gets results? by Susan http://journey2myself.org/archives/who-gets-results/comment-page-1/#comment-21198 Susan Thu, 11 Feb 2010 18:50:48 +0000 http://journey2myself.org/?p=476#comment-21198 Beth: I do think it is about Jesus' growth. I wrote about Matthew's version of this incident here, making exactly that point: http://susanjoan.wordpress.com/2008/08/17/jesus-growth-in-understanding/ Beth: I do think it is about Jesus’ growth. I wrote about Matthew’s version of this incident here, making exactly that point: http://susanjoan.wordpress.com/2008/08/17/jesus-growth-in-understanding/

]]> Comment on Mystery by Liz http://journey2myself.org/archives/mystery/comment-page-1/#comment-19981 Liz Mon, 21 Dec 2009 13:15:44 +0000 http://journey2myself.org/?p=428#comment-19981 Jeffrey -- yes I know there is more than language that separates Catholics from Anglicans or Episcopals. And there's less, IMHO, that separates us than many believe. And, yes, it a whole other topic. Jeffrey — yes I know there is more than language that separates Catholics from Anglicans or Episcopals. And there’s less, IMHO, that separates us than many believe. And, yes, it a whole other topic.

]]> Comment on Mystery by Jeffrey Pinyan http://journey2myself.org/archives/mystery/comment-page-1/#comment-19979 Jeffrey Pinyan Mon, 21 Dec 2009 13:06:07 +0000 http://journey2myself.org/?p=428#comment-19979 I won't pursue the discussion any further, then, except to say that there's more than simply language that separates Catholics from Anglicans, but that's a whole other topic. I won’t pursue the discussion any further, then, except to say that there’s more than simply language that separates Catholics from Anglicans, but that’s a whole other topic.

]]> Comment on Mystery by Liz http://journey2myself.org/archives/mystery/comment-page-1/#comment-19944 Liz Sun, 20 Dec 2009 01:39:37 +0000 http://journey2myself.org/?p=428#comment-19944 I hesitate to engage in this discussion at all. I have read some of the new language (not all); I suppose that a part of me has a gut reaction akin to: if I responded to this language form, I would have been Anglican instead of Roman Catholic. Also, although I am not overly familiar with the Latin mass, I am aware that the spanish doesn't always correspond to the english exactly. But, then, Spanish is a romance language as is Latin, and therefore the alignment may be easier in some ways. I work with multi-lingual websites and I know that the best translations are made the one who is translating into his/her native tongue. I can make sentences in spanish, or french that are technically correct, but just aren't how a native speaker would express the idea. In the same manner, I'm sure you have read sentences in english that are technically correct, but obviously not written by a native speaker. This seems to be a part of the issue with the "new" wording -- at least, that's how some of the phrasing sounds to my ears: technically correct, but not the way a native english speaker would say it. I'll live through it -- there is some much in the whole body of the teaching of the church that speaks to me. My only prayer is that I remain close to God and that I remember that living in relationship with God is the most important part. I hesitate to engage in this discussion at all. I have read some of the new language (not all); I suppose that a part of me has a gut reaction akin to: if I responded to this language form, I would have been Anglican instead of Roman Catholic. Also, although I am not overly familiar with the Latin mass, I am aware that the spanish doesn’t always correspond to the english exactly. But, then, Spanish is a romance language as is Latin, and therefore the alignment may be easier in some ways. I work with multi-lingual websites and I know that the best translations are made the one who is translating into his/her native tongue. I can make sentences in spanish, or french that are technically correct, but just aren’t how a native speaker would express the idea. In the same manner, I’m sure you have read sentences in english that are technically correct, but obviously not written by a native speaker. This seems to be a part of the issue with the “new” wording — at least, that’s how some of the phrasing sounds to my ears: technically correct, but not the way a native english speaker would say it.

I’ll live through it — there is some much in the whole body of the teaching of the church that speaks to me. My only prayer is that I remain close to God and that I remember that living in relationship with God is the most important part.

]]> Comment on Mystery by Jeffrey Pinyan http://journey2myself.org/archives/mystery/comment-page-1/#comment-19941 Jeffrey Pinyan Sun, 20 Dec 2009 00:42:31 +0000 http://journey2myself.org/?p=428#comment-19941 I would suggest that it is not that people want to make Mass (and Catholicism in general) more awesome and mysterious, but rather that the Mass (and Catholicism in general) IS truly awesome and mysterious, and our current English translation does not do the Mass justice in these regards. This new translation will HELP to restore (in the English language) that sense of awe and mystery, but it certainly won't "magically" do it on its own. There's a lot of unwarranted fright and distress over the new translations, and I wonder how many people have sat down with the texts that have been made public and read them with an open mind (and an open Bible!). The link between the words of the Mass and the words of Scripture has been restored to the degree found in the Latin text. It also helps -- though it's not necessary -- to be familiar with the Latin text of the Mass, because that will reveal how much more accurate and faithful to the normative text of the Mass this new translation will be. Just the thoughts of a fellow blogger who is prepared to receive these changes in a spirit of obedience, trust, and humility. I would suggest that it is not that people want to make Mass (and Catholicism in general) more awesome and mysterious, but rather that the Mass (and Catholicism in general) IS truly awesome and mysterious, and our current English translation does not do the Mass justice in these regards. This new translation will HELP to restore (in the English language) that sense of awe and mystery, but it certainly won’t “magically” do it on its own.

There’s a lot of unwarranted fright and distress over the new translations, and I wonder how many people have sat down with the texts that have been made public and read them with an open mind (and an open Bible!). The link between the words of the Mass and the words of Scripture has been restored to the degree found in the Latin text.

It also helps — though it’s not necessary — to be familiar with the Latin text of the Mass, because that will reveal how much more accurate and faithful to the normative text of the Mass this new translation will be.

Just the thoughts of a fellow blogger who is prepared to receive these changes in a spirit of obedience, trust, and humility.

]]> Comment on Why Catholic? by Liz http://journey2myself.org/archives/why-catholic/comment-page-1/#comment-18640 Liz Sun, 18 Oct 2009 17:03:19 +0000 http://journey2myself.org/?p=416#comment-18640 I'm erratic about writing Jean -- even tho Susan at Creo en Dios tries to gently get me to be more regular about it. But, check in from time to time and maybe the Spirit will have pushed me to write. I’m erratic about writing Jean — even tho Susan at Creo en Dios tries to gently get me to be more regular about it. But, check in from time to time and maybe the Spirit will have pushed me to write.

]]> Comment on Why Catholic? by Jean http://journey2myself.org/archives/why-catholic/comment-page-1/#comment-18638 Jean Sun, 18 Oct 2009 16:50:25 +0000 http://journey2myself.org/?p=416#comment-18638 I'm just finding your blog (through Creo en Dios, which I also just recently found)...just wanted to tell you this is wonderful. Keep writing - I appreciate it! I’m just finding your blog (through Creo en Dios, which I also just recently found)…just wanted to tell you this is wonderful. Keep writing – I appreciate it!

]]> Comment on Trees do bend… by Susan http://journey2myself.org/archives/trees-do-bend/comment-page-1/#comment-17103 Susan Thu, 27 Aug 2009 12:11:05 +0000 http://journey2myself.org/?p=396#comment-17103 Your post brought to mind an experience I had last summer at St. Ignatius with an imperfect and asymmetrical tree. My short post on it is here: http://susanjoan.wordpress.com/2008/07/17/imperfect-and-wounded-and-good/ Your post brought to mind an experience I had last summer at St. Ignatius with an imperfect and asymmetrical tree. My short post on it is here: http://susanjoan.wordpress.com/2008/07/17/imperfect-and-wounded-and-good/

]]> Comment on About by Elena http://journey2myself.org/about/comment-page-1/#comment-16785 Elena Sat, 15 Aug 2009 02:07:02 +0000 http://journey2myself.org/index.php?page_id=25#comment-16785 Love your blog. Enjoy the journey. Paz Love your blog. Enjoy the journey.

Paz

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